- Gideon's Trumpet
- "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us."
2nd Corinthians 4:3-7
Don't Let Soon Become a Thing of the Past
January 3rd, 2012
Recently I sent out a few emails to people that I know personally or that have been in contact with our ministry at some point in the past. Also on my email list are some ministers that are located all around the globe that have been a blessing to us in the past. The purpose was to let people know about a fellowship meeting we are having this coming weekend (January 6-8, 2012 - titled A New Church Order). Someone recently replied to me personally asking if I knew about how I had CC’d (carbon copied) everyone on one of those emails and that people then started to email one another with ‘reply all’. As it turns out everyone’s email address was exposed (my terminology). Let me tell you something – I had actually planned on doing a BCC (blind carbon copy), but I (without thinking) clicked the CC button when I added my contact list – didn’t notice – clicked Send…and the result of my mistake was that a communication between people was stirred up and a few Christians stepped up to the plate to offer their financial assistance to some out of state folks that want to, but can’t afford the cost of coming to ATL.
We cannot afford to think that this (or any future gatherings) are just going to be ‘another church gathering’. Every one of us knows that there is nothing good down here in the world which could possibly be worth holding on to and to that end, every one of us believing knows that at some point – God is going to move mightily. We really have to let go of every preconceived notion about ‘church’ as we know it – even when we are still in the midst of even doing what seems to be ‘church’ as we know it. What’s important is that we are being prepared for something NEW. Nobody can possibly know what something NEW is going to be like because _________(fill in the blank). However, I can tell you with 100% certainty that this weekend is going to be nothing less than at a minimal – an outpouring of God’s spiritual blessings on His people. We are going to be so blessed with God’s favor this weekend because we are standing up to honor Him! Who would want to miss that? On the other hand, what I CANNOT tell you with 100% certainty is that God WILL pour out of His Spirit – the manifest presence of the Holy Spirit upon his people – which is indeed our expectation at some point in time. I wish I could tell you that but I really don’t know…BUT what if he does do it now and you are not partaking? What if this happens the week after and you are not a partaker – next month, next year? This past weekend we had a preview of this as we gathered together in prayer and sharing and afterward there has been numerous testimonies of refreshing and being energized (how many times have you been energized after only 3 or 4 hours of sleep – that’s not possible is it?:)
Again, especially to those that are local to Atlanta, but this does apply to people outside of Atlanta as well: It is time to be more inconvenienced. I'm not speaking with pride here but many of us locally have been inconvenienced ourselves at least one day a week (albeit for only a few hours anyway) for years now. And that in itself is just scratching the surface of being inconvenienced – so therefore it can’t be something to be proud of. The gospel is not convenient or comfortable to the flesh. The flesh does not like to be inconvenienced. It's time to step further out of our comfort zones. I’ll end this plea with this scripture (red letter’s included), that should instill the fear of the Lord that we absolutely and desperately need to walk this out to the end:
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad – Matthew 12:30.
The context of that verse has the Lord telling us about binding the strong man and spoiling his goods – destroying the works of Satan in our lives and then being able to deliver the captives! This is what it is all about – and we CANNOT be afraid of it and that is exactly what our main problem is – we’ve been afraid but we think we are not afraid. It’s time for us to face and conquer that fear! In that verse the Greek word for ‘gathers’ is sunago (4863) – it is a compound of 2 words – 1.) sun (union, association, companionship, possession, completeness), 2.) ago – to lead, to bring, to drive, to induce). The Spirit of the Lord is absolutely leading us into this union – and it will be and must be coordinated and led in the natural realm by males. I came up with my own little analogy :) – soon ago: he is coming soon, but if I don’t step up to the plate now I will be passed by (past – ago get it?) – i.e. ‘get thee behind me Satan’.
Dinner for 2 and a movie or a basketball game: $100 (probably more right?)…how many times have we dropped 100 bucks without even thinking about it. There is not much time left to count the cost for real.
At least come and join us for a few hours on Sunday but this entire weekend is going to be an important time of fellowship – not just listening to preachers!
For those that do have a regular church fellowship (which is the absolute necessary iron sharpening iron), I encourage you to gird up for war and not to be complacent with sitting within the friendly confines of your meeting place week after week. There are gates of hell that must be attacked by an offensive Body of Christ and it going to be brutal – we cannot emphasize enough the need to come together now so that we can be prepared to individually accost the powers of darkness in these last days. This cannot be done with intellect and mental ascension – we must have the mind of Christ formed in us. The appointed time is coming very soon and there is no Plan B for this.
Blessings to all of God’s children!
Tom Gaughan
Judgment Begins at God’s House
It's important for us to realize that the 'judgment' spoken of here is not a judgement that has us looking at 'the body of Christ' (or others) but it is each individual first looking at themselves. Am I serving God or am I serving Baal. I must get the beam out of my own eyes so that I can see clearly to help others get their mind's clear as well - and to that end - judge a righteous judgement (that's what Jesus says). Even when Paul was chastising the 'foolish Galatians' for being under the influence of witchcraft he still calls them 'brethren'...
The following is a letter written by Derek Prince (date unknown)
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Dear Friend:
As American Christians, we are confronted by a grim, undeniable fact: our nation has come
under the judgment of God. For this there are many reasons, but they can be summed up in one
simple statement:
We have committed the sin for which Esau was rejected—we have despised our birthright (Heb. 12:15–17).
God judges us according to the measure of light we have received. Jesus told the Jews of His
day that their judgment would be much more severe than that of Sodom and Gomorrah, because
they had received a much greater revelation of the truth (Matthew 11:20–24).
The same applies to America in this century. No other nation has had the same access to the
Word of God that has been granted to the American people. Through culture and tradition,
through churches and evangelists, through radio and television, and through the printed word,
America has been blessed above all other nations with the knowledge of God’s truth. Our
judgment for rejecting it will be correspondingly severe.
Many Christians do not realize that God’s judgment does not begin with the people of the
world, but with the people of God. Peter told the Christians of his day, “For the time has come
for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of
those who do not obey the gospel of God?” (1 Peter 4:17). These words apply equally to the
church in America today.
Of all the sins that could be charged against the contemporary church, it is sufficient to
focus on two: materialism and compromise.
In Luke 17:26–30 Jesus predicted that the period before His return would be like the days of
Noah and Lot. He mentioned specifically eight activities characteristic of those days: eating,
drinking, marrying, giving in marriage, buying, selling, building, planting. Yet there is nothing
specifically sinful in any of these activities. What, then, was the problem?
The problem was materialism. The people of those days had become so engrossed in these
materialistic activities that they were unaware of the impending judgment of God on their
carnal lifestyle. When judgment came, they were totally unprepared.
The same is true today of most professing Christians in America. If the final judgments of
God should suddenly usher in the return of Christ, they would be totally unprepared.
Like materialism, the sin of compromise often goes unrecognized. About two years ago,
while praying, I had a mental picture of the interior of a typical church building with rows of
pews, a platform, a pulpit, a piano and so on. But the whole building was permeated with some
kind of fog. The outlines of objects could be discerned, but nothing was sharply defined. While
I was wondering what the fog represented, God gave me one clear word: compromise.
In the contemporary church, most of the main moral and doctrinal truths, so clearly
enunciated in the New Testament, have become blurred and ineffective. In 1 Corinthians 6:9–
10 Paul wrote: “Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor
effeminate men, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.” Yet the church today is full of people who commit
these sins, but remain totally unconcerned. In fact, they often boast of such sins.
A church member lay in a hospital, dying of AIDS, which he had contracted through
homosexuality. Then he received Christ and was given a New Testament. After reading some
way in the New Testament, he sent an urgent message to the person who had led him to Christ:
“Come and pray for me. I need deliverance. I never knew there was anything wrong with my lifestyle.”
About seven years ago, at the Christmas season, our staff had committed Ruth and me to
appear on two television presentations of PTL. Since we do not watch television, we had no
idea what to expect. I was supposed to be the “main speaker.” Out of the first hour, I was given
ten minutes, and out of the second hour, twenty minutes. Most of the time was given to appealing
for money and selling Tammy dolls. As far as I can recall, Ruth and I were the only people who even mentioned Jesus.
Shortly afterwards there was a public exposure of the scandals that have now become
notorious. But for me personally the most shocking thing was not any sexual or financial misdoing,
grievous as that was. What shocked me then, and still shocks me today, is the realization that
millions of Americans were being continually confronted with a totally false picture of
Christianity—one that had no room for the cross, with its demands for humility, for holiness
and for sacrificial living. How terrible to realize that people who have been seduced by such a
presentation may never hear the real truth of the gospel!
The PTL scandal is now history, but it has left us with a question we need to answer: was it
simply an isolated phenomenon, or was it a symptom of a disease that affects the Body of Christ
throughout America?
Yet within the church there is still a remnant of sincere, devoted followers of Jesus. If we are
among that number, how does God require us to respond to the present crises?
One clear answer is given in 2 Chronicles 7:14: “If My people who are called by My name
will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I
will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.” The phrase, “My people
who are called by My name,” applies to all Christians who take the name of Christ upon
themselves.
For at least 30 years I have been teaching on this Scripture, but recently I was confronted by
a shocking realization! God’s people in our day have never fulfilled the first condition. We have
never truly humbled ourselves. Our pride—both religious and racial—remains as a barrier that
holds back the answer to our prayers for ourselves and for our nation.
Through the severe dealings of God in my own life, I have learned the most effective way for
us to humble ourselves. Very simply, it is by confessing our sins. If we regularly and sincerely
confess our sins to God, it is impossible to approach Him with an attitude of pride.
Furthermore, I have seen that God has only committed Himself to forgive the sins we confess.
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all
unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9). Unconfessed sins are unforgiven sins. Thus the barrier of pride
builds up a second barrier of unforgiven sin.
The Bible exhorts us to confess our sins not merely to God, but also to one another. “Confess
your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed” (James 5:16).
Confessing our sins to God deals with vertical pride; confessing to one another deals with
horizontal pride. We can hardly maintain an attitude of pride towards someone to whom we
have just confessed our personal sins.
This applies especially to the relationship between husbands and wives. Those who regularly
confess their sins to one another are not kept apart by a barrier of pride.
Furthermore, confession of sin is an essential prerequisite to effective intercession. Daniel
was one of the most righteous characters in the Bible, but when he set out to intercede for his
people Israel, he began by acknowledging his own share in their sin (Daniel 9:3–13).
I believe that God is waiting for us as American Christians to humble ourselves before Him
and one another by confessing our sins. Only after we have done that, can we move on to claim
the healing of our land.
But I must add a word of warning. Do not begin to indulge in morbid introspection! The
Holy Spirit is “the finger of God” (Matthew 12:28; Luke 11:20). Ask God to place His finger on the
sins you need to confess. He will do it with unerring accuracy, probably bringing to light sins
which you never recognized!
I have confined this analysis to the situation in the United States. Much of what I have said,
however, applies to other nations who are heirs to the Judeo-Christian inheritance and to the
church worldwide. May God help each of us to accept our personal responsibility!
Yours in the Master’s service,
Derek Prince
Three Prayers to Live By
We (I) Repent!
Daniel 9: 4-17
I prayed to the LORD my God and confessed:
“O Lord, the great and awesome God, who keeps his covenant of love with all who love him and obey his commands, we have sinned and done wrong. We have been wicked and have rebelled; we have turned away from your commands and laws. We have not listened to your servants the prophets, who spoke in your name to our kings, our princes and our fathers, and to all the people of the land.
“Lord, you are righteous, but this day we are covered with shame—the men of Judah and people of Jerusalem and all Israel, both near and far, in all the countries where you have scattered us because of our unfaithfulness to you. O LORD, we and our kings, our princes and our fathers are covered with shame because we have sinned against you. The Lord our God is merciful and forgiving, even though we have rebelled against him; we have not obeyed the LORD our God or kept the laws he gave us through his servants the prophets. All Israel has transgressed your law and turned away, refusing to obey you.
“Therefore the curses and sworn judgments written in the Law of Moses, the servant of God, have been poured out on us, because we have sinned against you. You have fulfilled the words spoken against us and against our rulers by bringing upon us great disaster. Under the whole heaven nothing has ever been done like what has been done to Jerusalem. Just as it is written in the Law of Moses, all this disaster has come upon us, yet we have not sought the favor of the LORD our God by turning from our sins and giving attention to your truth. The LORD did not hesitate to bring the disaster upon us, for the LORD our God is righteous in everything he does; yet we have not obeyed him.
“Now, O Lord our God, who brought your people out of Egypt with a mighty hand and who made for yourself a name that endures to this day, we have sinned, we have done wrong. O Lord, in keeping with all your righteous acts, turn away your anger and your wrath from Jerusalem, your city, your holy hill. Our sins and the iniquities of our fathers have made Jerusalem and your people an object of scorn to all those around us.
“Now, our God, hear the prayers and petitions of your servant. For your sake, O Lord, look with favor on your desolate sanctuary. Give ear, O God, and hear; open your eyes and see the desolation of the city that bears your Name. We do not make requests of you because we are righteous, but because of your great mercy. O Lord, listen! O Lord, forgive! O Lord, hear and act! For your sake, O my God, do not delay, because your city and your people bear your Name.”
Thank You Father for Bringing Forth Your Son to Save Us!
1st Samuel 2: 1-10
Then Hannah prayed and said:
“My heart rejoices in the LORD; in the LORD my horn is lifted high. My mouth boasts over my enemies, for I delight in your deliverance.
“There is no one holy like the LORD; there is no one besides you; there is no Rock like our God.
“Do not keep talking so proudly or let your mouth speak such arrogance, for the LORD is a God who knows, and by him deeds are weighed.
“The bows of the warriors are broken, but those who stumbled are armed with strength. Those who were full hire themselves out for food, but those who were hungry hunger no more. She who was barren has borne seven children, but she who has had many sons pines away.
“The LORD brings death and makes alive; he brings down to the grave and raises up. The LORD sends poverty and wealth; he humbles and he exalts. He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap; he seats them with princes and has them inherit a throne of honor.
“For the foundations of the earth are the LORD’s; upon them he has set the world. He will guard the feet of his saints, but the wicked will be silenced in darkness.
“It is not by strength that one prevails; those who oppose the LORD will be shattered. He will thunder against them from heaven; the LORD will judge the ends of the earth.
“He will give strength to his king and exalt the horn of his anointed.”
Thank You Jesus for Delivering Us From Our Enemies and Giving Us Victory!
2nd Samuel
David sang to the LORD the words of this song when the LORD delivered him from the hand of all his enemies and from the hand of Saul.
He said:
“The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge,
my shield and the horn of my salvation.He is my stronghold, my refuge and my savior—
from violent men you save me. I call to the LORD, who is worthy of praise, and I am saved from my enemies.
“The waves of death swirled about me; the torrents of destruction overwhelmed me.
The cords of the grave coiled around me; the snares of death confronted me. In my distress I called to the LORD; I called out to my God. From his temple he heard my voice; my cry came to his ears.
“The earth trembled and quaked, the foundations of the heavens shook; they trembled because he was angry. Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.
He parted the heavens and came down; dark clouds were under his feet. He mounted the cherubim and flew; he soared on the wings of the wind. He made darkness his canopy around him—the dark rain clouds of the sky. Out of the brightness of his presence bolts of lightning blazed forth. The LORD thundered from heaven; the voice of the Most High resounded. He shot arrows and scattered the enemies, bolts of lightning and routed them. The valleys of the sea were exposed and the foundations of the earth laid bare
at the rebuke of the LORD, at the blast of breath from his nostrils.
“He reached down from on high and took hold of me; he drew me out of deep waters. He rescued me from my powerful enemy, from my foes, who were too strong for me. They confronted me in the day of my disaster, but the LORD was my support. He brought me out into a spacious place; he rescued me because he delighted in me.
“The LORD has dealt with me according to my righteousness; according to the cleanness of my hands he has rewarded me. For I have kept the ways of the LORD; I have not done evil by turning from my God.
All his laws are before me; I have not turned away from his decrees.
I have been blameless before him and have kept myself from sin. The LORD has rewarded me according to my righteousness, according to my cleanness in his sight.
“To the faithful you show yourself faithful, to the blameless you show yourself blameless, to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the crooked you show yourself shrewd. You save the humble, but your eyes are on the haughty to bring them low. You are my lamp, O LORD; the LORD turns my darkness into light.
With your help I can advance against a troop; with my God I can scale a wall.
“As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is flawless. He is a shield for all who take refuge in him. For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God? It is God who arms me with strength and makes my way perfect. He makes my feet like the feet of a deer; he enables me to stand on the heights. He trains my hands for battle; my arms can bend a bow of bronze. You give me your shield of victory; you stoop down to make me great. You broaden the path beneath me, so that my ankles do not turn.
“I pursued my enemies and crushed them; I did not turn back till they were destroyed. I crushed them completely, and they could not rise; they fell beneath my feet. You armed me with strength for battle; you made my adversaries bow at my feet. You made my enemies turn their backs in flight, and I destroyed my foes. They cried for help, but there was no one to save them—to the LORD, but he did not answer. I beat them as fine as the dust of the earth; I pounded and trampled them like mud in the streets.
“You have delivered me from the attacks of my people; you have preserved me as the head of nations. People I did not know are subject to me, and foreigners come cringing to me; as soon as they hear me, they obey me. They all lose heart; they come trembling from their strongholds.
“The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock! Exalted be God, the Rock, my Savior! He is the God who avenges me, who puts the nations under me, who sets me free from my enemies.You exalted me above my foes; from violent men you rescued me. Therefore I will praise you, O LORD, among the nations; I will sing praises to your name. He gives his king great victories; he shows unfailing kindness to his anointed, to David and his descendants forever.”
I Will Shake All Things
The following message preached by Derek Prince some years ago is extremely relevant and important for today and contains prophetic words that have truly come to pass in recent months. At this writing tomorrow is September 20th, 2011 which is the first official day of the lifting of the ban on homosexuals in the US military services. This is truly the beginning of the end. Only a rock solid relationship with our heavenly Father through Jesus Christ will keep us from being shaken when God does shake the heavens and the earth at the end of this age.
- Judgement of condemnation (sinners)
- Judgement of reward (saints)
Methuselah
7 Years Left?
Saturday, November 6, 2010
Someone emailed us a link to the video below and there is merit to responding to it because there are many people that are into trying to figure out when the tribulation period is going to start. While our focus should be on the Word of God and seeking truth via the Holy Spirit, it is necessary to create a contrast between teachings in order to sway the gainsayers (Titus 1:9) and contend for the faith (Jude 1:3).
Folks are now actually saying that the tribulation period, Daniel's last week, the 70th week - whatever we want to call it - is going to actually begin on November 8th, 2010. That sounds good and I actually hope that it does but what's striking is this: The narrator in the video and others say that they believe this AND they also believe that there is going to be a PRE-tribulation RAPTURE!
Now it does not take a rocket scientist to figure the math on this one...
I Believe the Tribulation Begins on 11/8/2010
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I Believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture
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I'm writing this on Saturday, November 6th, 2010. People that believe this equation supposedly now have less than 24 hours left on this planet. Time will roll on and we'll watch the 8th go by, the 9th, the 10th, 11th...etc. Now obviously, at some point those that believed this would have to humble themselves to accept the truth that they were WRONG about the starting of the tribulation being 11/8/2010. Hopefully they will then take it one very crucial step further and humbly take a look at what the Word of God says:
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
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Now look at Matthew 24. Read verse 9:
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
We should be more focused on when this thing ends and not when the end begins (i.e. focus on Jesus Christ and being transformed into his image so we will know Him and we won't be surprised at his coming). I also know that this is very interesting stuff to contemplate and to bounce off one another. This is not necessarily a bad thing...so with that, and since we're dealing with the number 7, which indicates completion - how about this as some food for thought:
The world population is set to exceed 7 billion somewhere between 2011 and 2012. Could be a good a time as any for the beginning of the end - just a thought...that's about as far as I'm going to go with that because I don't know :)
A few points about the video and a few of the referenced links:
- The guy narrating in the video believes in a pre-tribulation rapture, so at that point take what he says with a grain of salt. Belief in a pre-tribulation rapture is a serious doctrinal flaw because it will not have you prepared to deal with the reality of what is going to happen here on Earth. Steer clear of any one that teaches it (2nd John 1:10-11). Consider the source.
- The article he linked to states that '...the US proposed that Israel lease parts of the Jordan Valley from the Palestinians for an additional seven years' - so this is a 'lease' that is apparently already in progress because it’s requesting an additional seven years, therefore forget about the 7 year thing applying here. It doesn't make sense to say that this so called treaty is 'part of' the 'covenant with many for one week' (one week being 7 years) in Daniel 9:27 when it's not an explicitly a 7 year treaty. We need to start looking at what Daniel is really telling us with regard to this 'covenant' and more importantly who the 'he' is in the context of those verses, but that is out of the scope of this article (let's pray for the wisdom from Holy Spirit in the matter).
- How long can you watch a guy on a stage dressed up like an old Jew or whatever he is supposed to be? Plus, he said that God broke the covenant with He made Abraham?!?Sorry Mr. Rood - that covenant is good right now – we know that because Abraham is in glory (John 8:56)! God does not break the promises he makes with those that love him (Daniel 9:4), we might break off - but He is TRUE to His Word.
- The rabbi from the 1200's (New Testament - post Pentecost era) has an interesting 'prophesy' but so did guys like Nostradamus. Was either of them called by God? Was either of them believers in Jesus Christ of the Bible? It all sounds good but again - consider the source (Prophecy of Jubilees). It should be noted that the author of that 2010 rapture site also teaches a 'once saved always saved' lie.
Let’s not get hung up on dates. Many are saying they are having dreams where they are being told by the Lord that certain things were going to happen within a certain time-frame or even by a certain date. I've experienced it myself and witnessed it in others close to me over the last few years and guess what - they haven't panned out! This date stuff is just more information being thrown out there to try to distract us from the mission - which is to get filled with the Holy Ghost, KNOW Jesus Christ and do our Father's service. I look at my own personal experience as an opportunity to humble myself before God and say 'hey - I thought I knew something - but I didn't - but I want to hear from You My Lord, so I turn to You and not my own understanding'.
Where in scripture did any word from the Lord to his prophets/apostles/disciples involve dates or time-frames? Of course Daniel was given visions pertaining to time frames but in fact if we look at New Testament instances where someone received word from the Lord – it was pretty much just in command form (go here and do this) and done via a vision - not a dream occurring while asleep. I wonder about what Joel 2:28 means when he says that 'your old men will dream dreams and your young men will see visions'. Is there a difference between a dream and a vision? A dream is something we see or experience when we're sleeping but a vision is something 'seen' when not sleeping. Although, the Bible says in Acts 11:5 that Peter had a vision during the daytime and he was in a 'trance'. The word 'trance' is ekstasis - defined as a displacement of the mind, i.e. bewilderment, "ecstasy" to be amazed, amazement, astonishment, trance. Other new testament visions that we read about do not indicate that a trance-like state is involved so I would think that it is not a requirement to have a vision. I've not found any 'dreams' per se in the post-Pentecostal accounts in the New Testament. Could it be that Joel is telling us that the 'young men' are New Testament believers/prophets whereas the 'dreamers' are pointing to the Old Testament prophets - with regard to communications to humans from God? I'm pretty much tired of hearing about someone's dreams. It's not that we can't have relevant dreams or that godly people cannot offer help in understanding a dream but I think that the dreams we have are more of way for us to see things about ourselves - about our 'Old Man' - that besides our own selves only really God knows...the really deep things about a human soul that God can bring to our attention through a dream. Another positive aspect of a dream would be a channel used by God for prompting us to pray for people in our dreams that are known to us as he may use the dream to bring them to our remembrance. As far as I can tell we really don't have any guidance from the apostles regarding dreams and the meaning of them nor anything about interpreting them. That's why I am very leery of anyone you see with a ministry of interpreting people's dreams.
So aside from all this dreamy stuff, I want some pay dirt. I want a vision and the subsequent affects like what I'm reading about in this Bible. At some point we have to come to a place where SOMEONE has vision - carries out the orders contained in the vision and then we have the results/evidence seen by other eye-witnesses, which therefore provides the PROOF that this came from the Most High God. When this starts happening, this will truly be and indicator that the end is beginning. This will be a sure sign that the called out ones are moving out to bring the age to an end and reap a harvest of souls to rejoice at the coming of our Lord and King! That's when WE will know that the last 7 years has begun!

